NasimiAsl Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 i think we need some better search ( full text search ) can search 3 char words like GPU .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnK Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 A vote to leave or remain causes a flashback to the Brexit referendum here in the UK. As I trust Deltakosh and Jerome more than any government leaders I am persuaded by their reasoning so I will ?. Wingnut, Arte, Dad72 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 So guys, the good news is this forum will remain for archive purpose Rich and I discussed about that and he will keep it alive for Phaser as well but as read only. This way we will not lose anytime and we will be able to refer to this forum at any time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerome Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 I personaly would prefer to remain. But I already know that the Phaser community's decision will force us to move in some near future. So it's probably better to take in hands our own future from now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad72 Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 But if you want deltakosh, I can transfer everything from this forum to others with a little bit of work.I just need the SQL file of this forum and the architecture of the new one to create new queries in order to transfer everything. But if this forum is not going to disappear, that's good too, but I also agree with what Jerome says. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Thanks a lot Dad but I have no access to SAL and honestly I agree with Rich on the idea that transferring everything will never be perfect. So let's keep this forum here for history and start our new journey on the new one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad72 Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Fine too. A kind of new page that is created. It is true that the transfer can create weird posts on the words in bold, italic, color, emoticon, block code... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 Exactly and no post will be flagged as answered correctly leading to more confusion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raggar Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 I gotta say, it saddens me to move from this forum I liked having some Phaser threads show up in the activity feed as well, even if I don't use Phaser myself. However, if Phaser is moving anyway, I'm on board with moving the BabylonJS activity elsewhere as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingnut Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 16 hours ago, Deltakosh said: This way we will not lose anytime and we will be able to refer to this forum at any time. This is the part I don't believe/trust. Words come easy, but follow-through is subject to folks "changing their minds". We don't need access to the current DB. We just need someone near the DB... to get us a backup. Not necessarily one of "our people". Ask the folks near the DB to make a copy for us. What's so difficult about that? Are we asking for the moon and stars? No. Just a backup. Would it be a binary mess that we couldn't decipher anyway? Can we fire-up an Invision forum later, and re-activate it all? (in case of emergency) Please, let's not be flippant/negligent about the value of this archive. These changes are happening much too fast and (possibly) without proper ass-covering. How about we take another month or two to completely investigate our back-up options? Just one wrong move during this hack'n'slash transition, and our knowledge base could be killed. Are there animosities involved... in these decisions? Is someone pissed at someone else? And while we're at it, what are the backup options for the new forum? Are we destined to go thru this "nail-biter" thing... AGAIN? So stressful. Don't we NEED to be ready... to revert, in case the new forum or its authors/support... suck beyond belief? This whole operation feels somewhat haphazard to me... done "on a wing and a prayer", perhaps. Maybe it's my inexperience in these things... that causes these worries. About 10 million future BJS users... have not read ANY of our posts, yet. People tend to quickly label as "everything is fine" when in-fact, everything is NOT fine. This premature "it's fine" labeling is often caused by laziness and rush. No matter the rush to fly to the new destination, take some time to pack some luggage and make sure your "home" is safe... before departing. This will be my last comments on this subject, I think. Sorry for all the worrying, but I'm worried. I love and cherish the posts in this forum. Aside: On 12/7/2018 at 5:01 PM, Deltakosh said: just the mobile app could save my day Hey DK, they make laptops that are ALMOST as small as tablets/pads, and almost as easy to take to lunch with you. With a laptop, you can get a REAL keyboard, and you can avoid thumb-typing. Then, you could even type sentences longer than "pinging RaananW". hahaha. Ahh, it's so much fun to pummel tablet thumb-typers. They yell "Hey Wingnut... more white space in your posts, please"... and I yell "Hey pad user... less white space in your posts, please". fun. The new forum looks kind of white-spacey... like a tablet user was involved in its CSS/design. The desktops vs. mobiles "styling wars"... continue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerome Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 I agree : the current backup is really a problem we should take care of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NasimiAsl Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 i need all my post i use them like reference here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad72 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 5 hours ago, NasimiAsl said: i need all my post i use them like reference here You can make a copy of your post here and copy it on the new forum eventually. For the backup, it seems that Deltakosh does not have access to the export of the backup in a .sql file which is the only method to retrieve a backup.It is a kind of file which create queries to insert enter into a database. However, I find that it is not very practical to have to search on a forum and then ask questions in another, but if we have to do with it, we must adapt to this new situation and recreate a new story about the new forum. This new forum is pretty cool, simple but very effective to use. I was reluctant at first, but it's true that the new forum has something more modern. The design is purifying and goes to the essentials. It works like facebook, the messages are instant, no need to refresh the post, it appears by magic. Wingnut 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NasimiAsl Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 i can make crawler to get all content from this forum in 4 day if that necessary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 1 hour ago, NasimiAsl said: i can make crawler to get all content from this forum in 4 day if that necessary wget is another option for backing up the site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 I agree with you all. If someone comes with a way to save all data In the meantime I offered to pay for this forum to keep it alive for our archive Wingnut and jerome 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerome Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 That's very kind of you. But I think we have to think about a way to download everything. Fortunately (and because we decided early to migrate) there"s no hurry for now, we can think, study, test some ways to get the archive. We don't have access to the DB, it's a fact. But it's not a new one, it's something that we've ever been facing to. We were depending on another community's tool and on a service that doesn't allow to get the data back. It's a long time known issue. We can, from now, start to think how to get everything back whatever the way. No need for hurry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vousk-prod. Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 This forum is not just a warm place where we drink beers, it is also the additional user manual of BJS, all the info and ideas written here ARE the references that allows people to actually use BJS in so many ways. --> +1 for a backup of every old posts. Because if we loose that old database, be prepared to 1. answer again everything already answered, 2. forget many excellent code tricks, 3. experience a significative drop of new BJS users due to lack of relevant info Also, while switching to a new empty forum, be prepared to tell people several times per day "this already has been answered here: url-to-old-forum-specific-post". --> +1 for trying our best to throw the old content somewhere in the new forum (dedicated section for instance) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad72 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 I remember at the very beginning that we had this forum, I had asked why, not having our own forum rather than having it hosted, to have total control and especially to be independent. We should have changed a long time ago with the growing popularity of Babylon and not depend on a forum hosting that should have been temporary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vousk-prod. Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Yep! And the question now is: Is that new discourse forum a place where we really are autonomous, or will we depend on external futur choices constraining us to move again (and loose data) in several years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad72 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 This new forum now belongs to Babylon. Are url is forum.babylon.com The forum is no longer hosted by others. I think that should not happen anymore. For the moment we have not lost any data. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vousk-prod. Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 The fact the url is on babylon.com host has to do with DNS, it does not tell if the forum belongs to Babylon. DK said in the first post that he ask people at Discourse if they can offer to host BJS forum. At my ears that sounds as kind of a dependency, but maybe I've misunderstood the first post. Yeah we have not lost any data for now, and DK propose Rich to pay for keeping that old forum as an archive, but one day anything can happen when you are not in full control of your stuff ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 I'm in full control with no dependency at all this time. I wanted to use the oss offer of discourse but ultimately I picked a paid subscription because I wanted things like custom domain, etc.. Technically the forum is a docker app that I can run where I want so this should be futureproof V!nc3r, Wingnut and jerome 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vousk-prod. Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Ah cool ! That's great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vousk-prod. Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 What a pity, we'll switch forum just before the Guinness Book to state Wingnut Chronicles as the longest post ever made by the human race. Wingnut 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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