Alexander Krug Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Hi there, since the OS update from Apple last week, we see huge issues poppping up in existing games e.g. full screen doesnt work anymore (URL bar + navigation bar is visible) or the games are not working at all anymore. I really doubt with the update if Apple is still interested in HTML5 support... I cant understand them anymore. I'm just posting this issue to make you aware about this issues and that you're going to test your game on OS7 as well. If you know how to solve this 100% scaling issue (disable view of URL bar), please let me know Alexander Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Krug Posted September 25, 2013 Author Share Posted September 25, 2013 Uuups - too late - already discussed here: http://www.html5gamedevs.com/topic/1436-ios7-is-going-to-break-your-games/page-2 Please close that topic @mod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatalfluff Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 It's good to see that publisher(s) are aware of this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbat Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Actually, it might be good thread to discuss possible assumptions we have to make from publisher's point of view for now (assuming that no reliable full-screen hack is available on iOS7.0). My approach:- Make portrait games - Assume games are fitting into normal browsing area (no fullscreen).- As a stretch goal, make sure non-game-play elements (such as background) will cover entire full-screen area (if supported, for example, if running on latest Android Chrome). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Krug Posted September 25, 2013 Author Share Posted September 25, 2013 Honestly I'm not sure if Apple is really aware of this problem. I hope they will change this soon, to make some workaround possible again. Let us push them somehow - any ideas? Our all goal should be to provide a native like gaming experience. I'm not too deep into this topic technically, but sbat's approach sounds good. Anything what's possible to hide the URL bar and to enable users to play in "full screen" is highly welcome. I know that it's even impossible to hide the URL bar on some Android devices, but we accepted them. The issues we saw so far is that games are even not playable anymore as the available screen is too small. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyson Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 To be quite honest, these issues mostly affect iPhone and iOS7. Why should we only make portrait games, if most visitor stats seem to suggest most people are web gaming using iPads? IMHO, not worth worrying about since you can't change anything until the iOS 7.0.1 or 7.1 Tyson MikeHart 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Honestly I'm not sure if Apple is really aware of this problem. They are aware and have seen the issues shown to them. Can't say much more yet, sorry. austin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Krug Posted September 26, 2013 Author Share Posted September 26, 2013 Hi Rich, good to hear that they are aware! Are you in contact with them? Anyway, looking forward to iOS 7.0.1 / 7.1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelH Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 I aint getting my hopes up for them to sort this in the next update to be honest, its Apple. Will see what happens, but like Tyson said, most iOS, from our stats as well, are using iPad to play games, so until we can actually do something, i wouldn't worry too much about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelH Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 As i said, just got an update on my iphone 5 and ipad for iOS 7.0.2, no changes from what i can see, so i wouldn't expect anything from apple to quickly :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Krug Posted October 4, 2013 Author Share Posted October 4, 2013 Just a short update on this topic. We actually received a game where the URL bar is NOT displayed on OS7. I asked the developer what he did and he told me the following: "In all my games I integrated Zynga's excellent 'viewporter' lib - https://github.com/zynga/viewporter with some modified viweport tags. I'm not sure if the construct/gamemaker people would be able to add it to their games but I'd certainly recommend it to those who code in javascript or typescript." Hope it helps and happy to get updates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorasso Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Can you tell us the name of the game:)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dev Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Awesome, Alexander. More info is definitely welcome. Will be testing soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezelia Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 strange, I use viewporter and the adress bar is not hidden. also, Phaser viewport stuff is also inspired from Zynga's viewporter but adress bar are still here :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mentuat Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 The game Alexander is referring to is: http://happylandergames.com/games/nutrush/ I don't have an iOS7 device on me at the mo - but I had tested my previous games (that use the same viewport code) and it didn't appear to fix the iOS7 issue so would be surprised if this game is doing anything different to be honest maybe it just worked on this occasion because of an orientation anomaly or something? - would be useful to get feedback from others anyway if it is magically working then I expect to be reverred as some kind of HTML5 God, with epic songs written about my manly prowess handed down from generation to generation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorasso Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Thanks mentuat for link. Unfortunately this game works as any other game on iOS7 for me. Address bar is still there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Yes I tested ViewPorter almost the first thing I did and it didn't work properly any more, neither does the game link above. Must have just been a fluke or something? Who knows. But definitely isn't consistently working Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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